This 2007 Porsche 997 Turbo Coupe is finished in Arctic Silver Metallic over a Black full leather interior and features a 6-speed manual transmission. The car was factory-equipped with optional heated seats, Porsche-crested headrests, silver seatbelts, a thicker leather steering wheel, and Sport Chrono Package Turbo. It was originally sold in the U.S. and was imported to Canada where it was purchased by the seller in 2021. During a track day in June 2024, the engine suffered from oil starvation leading to damage of several internal components. The engine was removed and dismantled before its salvageable parts were carefully wrapped and set aside for a future rebuild. Offered without an engine installed as a non-running project car, this 997 Turbo is now being auctioned out of Canada with approximately 74k miles showing on the odometer.
This 997 is finished in Arctic Silver Metallic with Turbo-specific bumpers, wide fenders, side air intakes, and a speed-activated rear spoiler. Equipment includes bi-xenon headlamps, fog lights, heated power mirrors, an electric sunroof, dual exhaust outlets, red brake calipers, and 19” 911 Turbo wheels. The car rides on Pirelli P Zero Sottonero tires dated from 2021 with approximately 75% tread remaining per the seller. Some signs of wear are noted on the plastic lower front lip spoiler as well as pitting on the windshield. The seller notes the car sustained damage to the right side in 2016 and was subsequently repaired by a Porsche-approved autobody shop. A corresponding repair invoice is available, and a CARFAX report is provided in the gallery.
The Black full leather interior includes a matching Alcantara headliner, silver-colored trim, heated power-adjustable front seats, optional silver seatbelts, Porsche-crested headrests, a thicker three-spoke leather steering wheel, and a leather shift knob with an aluminum inlay. Other accessories include automatic climate control, cruise control, a remote central locking system, a Sport Chrono dashboard stopwatch, a Bose sound system, and an aftermarket touchscreen Alpine head unit.
This 997 was factory-equipped with a twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter Mezger flat-six engine that sent up to 480 HP and 460 lb.-ft of torque to all four wheels through a 6-speed manual transmission. The seller heard a rattling noise coming from the engine during a track day in June 2024 and the car was promptly shut off and towed to a trusted mechanic where it was fully disassembled and inspected. It was discovered that a lack of lubrication caused scoring of the crankshaft, rod bearings, and main bearings, and allowed metal particles to enter the engine oil. The initial cause of the lubrication failure is unconfirmed but is believed to have resulted from an obstruction in the oiling system. The engine has been completely disassembled and any parts that were not damaged have been set aside for the next owner to use for a rebuild. The seller adds that the car was maintained by Reigal Tuning during their ownership and recently received a new clutch and Bilstein coilovers.
This sale will include a clean title.
The seller would like you to know: “The vehicle and engine parts can be picked up at Lugnutz or crated for shipment at the buyer's expense.”
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Sold for $30,250
Congratulations @vitti821, it's your car! We'll be in touch with next steps to get this project safely to you. You will have a nice car when you are done.
Thanks to PCAR, the commentators and bidders.
when time runs out the auction should be over. if you are going to bid stop wasting everyone time and place the bid
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if ur gonna click it, click it. shouldve been my car for 28750
thats bs
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i agree
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This car is selling today, reserve has been lifted
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@993david yes the Bilsteins work with PASM.
@seller are the bilsteins pss10 that work with pasm?
@ruf3600 The engine was carefully disassembled, documented, and then all the pieces were placed in the metal cage shown in the video and in the background of the photos. The cage was then secured. Every part of the engine is in the cage.
@wilhit10. I got a bill for about $CAD5k to remove and disassemble the engine and would expect a similar bill to put the car back together again.
The ad states that undamaged parts were set aside. Are any major engine parts not included? Are components like the crank, rods, pistons etc still there despite being damaged?
@wilhit10 the motor is in 100 pieces in that metal cage
How much would it cost for you to put the motor, trans in so that it can be shipped whole?
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@Ryan. I am suggesting any US buyer contact Porsche and/or their customs broker to obtain correct information as to importing this vehicle into the US.
In the event that the vehicle sells into the US, we will certainly help to obtain whatever sticker/letter is necessary as well as assist with an appropriate broker and help with logistics if desired.
If the car sells to a Canadian, the car has its RIV sticker specifying its compliance to Canadian DOT standards, and is currently registered in Alberta so there are no ownership transfer issues.
@lromanosky I think I will respond to this by advising any prospective bidders to call Porsche directly and ask them if they will provide the letter, and then we can erase the FUD.
Perhaps 'erasing the FUD' would be a responsibility I would assume if I were trying to sell this car.
Original VIN sticker is missing from the driver’s side door? Please look and confirm thanks.
@idlook2. I think I will respond to this by advising any prospective bidders to call Porsche directly and ask them if they will provide the letter, and then we can erase the FUD.
Porsche no longer provides the compliance letter, I just tried to get one a few weeks ago and lots of reports online confirm my experience. Importing this car will be very hard without the DOT sticker.
@vitti821. I've exported 50 cars to the US, both when I was the Sales Manager of Porsche Calgary, and on my own, with both my own cars and client cars. I mostly use TFX International who has a door to door service, and handles all the importation and brokerage.
There can be issues if the car is non compliant; this is mostly the case with instrument clusters that are in KM, instead of MPH, and warning lights for the 'Brake' and other lights. This was a US car and it has its original speedometer and odometer, and nothing else was touched. There are no compliance issues.
None of the Canadian cars that I have exported have had a US DOT sticker, because they had a Canadian Dept. of Transport sticker. Cars without a US DOT sticker can be imported if they have a compliance letter from the manufacturer saying that they are compliant.
This car lost its US DOT sticker, but has a Canadian RIV sticker saying it meets Canadian Standards - What amounts to the same thing as what a new Canadian car would have had.
Bottom line: US customs needs to verify that the car is compliant either with the original DOT sticker or with a Compliance letter saying that it is compliant. That is the key point that determines whether the car can be imported without using a Registered Importer.
There are manufacturers who don't want to give you the compliance letter as a trade barrier to keep the buying and selling of cars within the dealer network. Some manufacturers are miserable to deal with, some are excellent. Happily in this case Porsche is one of the easy ones, and just gives you the letter.
If the car has neither the stickers or the compliance letters, then you need to hire a Registered Importer who then provides a bond, and takes possession of the vehicle for 30 days, and verifies that the vehicle is indeed EPA and DOT compliant.
Lastly, if a car is over 25 years old, it doesn't need to prove that it is EPA or DOT compliant.
I will assist with logistics and exportation if required for the new owner of this vehicle.
You need that manufacturing label – don’t bother buying it if there is no label.
The seller can order a new label from the manufacturer. Which they should if they are selling to anyone.
For us to import the label would have to say it complies to all U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety
Above is a message from the broker I have used in the past. I would get on getting a label.
@MezgerTT. I have provided the Invoice from the $CAD 5,614 invoice - $2,833 in parts and $1,995 in labour - and included a video of the paint meter readings as well as the CARFAX, - I believe is the 'full transparency'. The previous owner may very well have insisted on a new Porsche part rather than fixing a dent in the door.
@vitti821 scratch that.i read your message after sending that last response
If there is no vin sticker on the door it could take 1-2 months to get a replacement. I’d recommend the seller send a copy of the title to Porsche and request one asap. Without that sticker I and other USA buyers will either have to proceed cautiously or stay away all together.
@lromanosky Thank you, Lawrence, with all due respect, this was no scratch. The invoice shows that the door was damaged so badly, it had to be replaced and half the car was repainted. If a scratch costs $2k in Calgary according to you, the fact it cost $6k Canadian to put on a $2,600 door and repaint most of the car is immaterial other than, if you believe that is cheap money, maybe we should be concerned about the quality of work and why it wasn’t addressed in your description and first video. Long and short, the car was damaged badly enough to replace the door. This is not a difficult issue when that’s very clear from the invoice that was posted after the auction started. I’m sure it is very important to the principals of PCar Market that this information is revealed to bidders to maintain credibility to the platform and avoid a headache later as they rely upon a seller’s representations to be accurate. Everyone bidding is entitled to full transparency from a seller. Thank you.
@mezgertt. The bill from Cosmos is less than $CAD 6,000 and that doesn't go that far at a Porsche Approved Body Shop. It happened before the owner bought the car. "Quite an impact" collisions are tens of thousands of dollars, not $6k. In Calgary, repainting a door because of scratch is $2k.
Importing a car back to the US involves showing the EPA and DOT stickers to prove that it is compliant. If you do not have the stickers, then you need a compliance letter from the manufacturer saying the meets those standards. You just call Porsche and they send you the letter. The absence of the sticker is not a problem.
Even if you don't have the stickers, or the letter, you can still import the car through an RI.
But importing this car back to the US is straightforward, and I can assist getting that done.
@MezgerTT this makes things tricky. no federal US vin sticker makes importing this car back into the USA very difficult.
@lromanosky Thanks, Lawrence. Your 928 is reading 160 um on the doors which is original. The hood at 200 may have had clearcoat shot on it considering its age as 8 mil is a lot of factory paint. Also, the Cosmo Collision work order for the 997 Turbo shows that the driver’s door was replaced (solves the mystery of the missing Federal US VIN decal) and that much of the car was repainted so it takes the guess work out of anyone’s opinion. That said, there is no dispute the car was largely repainted. In addition, for the door to be replaced, it must have taken quite an impact to the left door as insurance companies generally don’t like paying for doors, especially a door with a VIN decal. All that said, if your client owned the car when it was involved in both crashes, it would be great for him/her to give you pictures to post of the damage that was repaired as most everyone (especially Porsche owners) document vehicle damage when they report a claim to an insurance carrier. Thanks.
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In this hour long video on my ex 25k mile 928, I go around the shop and show paint meter readings of an number of cars with the same instrument that I used with this 997 TT - In between the 30 and 40 minute mark, if anybody is interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjBUnzeTts
I just metered a nearly new, never touched 992 and got 200 micrometers throughout. At least on my gauge, this appears factory. I’ve never seen a repaint under 400um. In my opinion under 200um is original factory paint, over 400 is a repaint and in between 200um and 400um is likely blend. PPF is about the same thickness as original paint. A skim of filler and block sanding, like you might find on well restored classic cars are 600um to 1000um. I’ve metered hundreds of cars. I don’t have a crystal ball though, this is my best estimate.
There are some panels on this car that are unquestionably original, some that have been repainted, and some that have been blended.
Typed too fast. 200 um is 8 mil and 250 um is 10 mil, neither are normal readings on an original paint 997 Turbo with no PPF. Should read no higher than 160 to 170 um and generally read around 100 -110 um (which is 4 mil)
Thanks @lromanosky for the paint meter readings. Here’s an FYI -
250 UM on the paint meter is 10 mil. Anything above 5-6.5 mil/160 um on a 997 Turbo is a repainted panel. 160 UM is about as high as you should see on an original paint 997 Turbo. That said, this car has likely been repainted everywhere except the rear metal panel that runs above the engine cover. If the decal is missing on the drivers door, it likely was replaced with a new panel and thus the inconsistent low readings. 200 UM which is 10 mil is not normal on a 997 Turbo with original paint. Even the front fenders and hood are reading much too high with PPF. 500 UM is 19 mil. 997 Turbos with PPF read 9 to 12 mil/ 240to 290um. Anything above 350 um with PPF is a repaint on a 997 Turbo. Just for your edification.
As a possible USA Buyer I need a picture of the manufacturer label. (Vin sticker on the passenger door/door jam) thanks
@mezgertt. Understood. Here is a link to a video of the paint meter results.
https://youtu.be/Jq6TXRpGPLQ
Body shop invoice from Cosmos Collision (the Porsche Authorized Collision Shop in Calgary) is uploaded.
@lromanosky Lawrence, thanks for the video. Be great if you could identify which body panels were damaged in the prior crash in a video. Also, is the factory VIN decal still located in the driver’s door jamb. In your video, it appeared to be missing and the pictures posted don’t show that area. Would be great to know if it’s there or missing. Since this will be a $30,000-$45,000 repair with a used engine, labor and new oil coolers, etc, if everything goes right, would be great to know what else needs to be addressed or negatively effects value. Thanks.
MezgerTT. I gave the images of the invoice to PCar, but I will follow it up, along with the paint meter readings.
@lromanosky Thanks for the response. Can you post the invoice for the damage to the car that was repaired? I know you said it was uploaded, but don’t see it in the photos posted, unless I missed it. In addition, can you post paint meter readings so we can see what panels on the car have been repainted. Thanks.
“Made in Austria” Mezger crankcase was likely the source of the failure. Made in Germany is apparently a thing, who knew?
And not the first failure associated with the later outsourced “996..” Mezger GT-1 blocks.
Good project for the brave new owner! GLWA!!
@idlook2. There are no cracks in the crankcase. Picture 139 shows a small detail perhaps 1cm wide of inside of one of the case halves. What you are looking at are portions of very thin metal flakes separating from the wall of the crankcase. It appears to be a casting imperfection, where a very thin layer of the block material has separated, likely due to an air pocket. It is a very small area, not impacted by any engine parts, or on a stressed part of the crankcase. It is the only part of the crankcase that shows anything unusual. It can be ground out easily. This is perhaps the source of the failure of the engine - the metal flake making its way into the oil system. As I understand it, the crankcase has to be prepped by hand to remove imperfections when it is freshly cast, before machining and assembly. It looks like this part was missed or was invisible at the time of manufacture. It is definitely not a stress crack or damage from any sort of impact.
What am I looking at in picture 139? Looks like a crack but I’m not sure which component I am looking at. Also, picture 143, is that a crack in the block?
Here is a narrated video of the car,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfWh745Ly30
The car is being sold with the OEM wheels and exhaust as part of the auction. The aftermarket wheels and exhaust are surplus and available separately. The exhaust was just put on in the last 200km. There are no gearbox or other driveline issues, syncros are fine.
@lromanosky Which wheels and exhaust come with the car as there are aftermarket exhaust and wheels in some of the pictures? Also, any synchro or other issues with the transmission before the motor called it a day?
Thanks
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@idlook2. I have uploaded the invoice from Cosmos Collision - the Porsche authorized body shop in Calgary - for $CAD 6,000 for damage to the RHS of the car.
Do you have any information or pictures of the accidents?
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