Pre-Production 1975 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI
Vehicle Details
- Year: 1975
- Make: Porsche
- Model: 911S
- VIN: 911.560.0011
- Mileage Shown: 19,810
- Transmission: Manual
- Title status: Clear
- Seller: Bill_Noon
- Seller Type: Dealer
- Location: San Diego, CA 92116
- Dealer Fees: None
- Lot #: V-0001171
We are pleased to present Chassis No. 911.560.0011, a rare 1975 Carrera 2.7 pre-production test and development car. Stamped with original “Konstruktion” number 105.0001, this stunning example was assembled in June of 1974 using the first ever production body for the 1975 model year. Examination of Porsche production records indicate that this particular Carrera 2.7 MFI is the first of 508 examples completed and was used as an internal test and development car. Deemed surplus by Porsche after about eight months, this Carrera was acquired by German Porsche dealer Freisinger Motorsports and was sold at least three times before being exported to Japan in 1991. Finally resurfacing in 2012, this car was repurchased by Freisinger before being sold to a collector in the United States. This unique piece of Porsche history now shows 31,882 kilometers (19,810) and is being offered for auction in exceptional condition by a dealer in California.
While in Japan, this Carrera was repainted from its original light yellow to Grand Prix white. A passenger side mirror along with front fender side marker lights were also fitted in compliance with Japanese road laws. The seller states that the exterior shows very well, only displaying minor blemishes. Following extensive refurbishment at Virtuoso Performance in Hayward, California, it was noted that this Carrera remains rust free and structurally sound. This car features newly designed front and rear spoilers and original Fuchs light alloy wheels which come wrapped in Pirelli tires. Reportedly accident free, this is a very well-preserved example.
Records indicate that this Carrera was fitted with a Midnight Blue interior, however, it is actually appointed in Black with Shetland Cloth inlays, likely an error due to the fact that these notes were transcribed from original handwritten documents. During its comprehensive refurbishment, the seats were fully reupholstered along with $35,000 in additional work. All accessories, electrical components and gauges are fully functional at this time. Factory options equipped for this vehicle read as follows:
- M401 7” & 8” Fuchs Light Alloy Rims
- M425 Rear Wiper System
- M469 Black Headliner
- M473 Spoilers
- Lightweight Glass
- Reduced Sound Deadening & Underbody Protection
- K-Jetronic Injection System
- Pirelli Tires
Today, the car remains fitted with both the original engine and gearbox as recorded on Porsche’s internal records. The engine is a very special “Works” (Race Department) prepared typ. 911/83 engine with engine number 664.1375. The bottom side of the engine also has the distinct “K” stamping which is believed to stand for “kiene” or none” for non-conforming. The “K” stamping might also be a reference to the fact that this car initially was fitted with an experimental Bosch K-Jetronic injection system that Porsche had been testing.
In addition to the specially prepared engine, this Porsche still retains a variety of unidentified components, likely also used during Porsche’s testing and development program. The engine compartment has an extremely interesting bracket with a vacuum canister and associated plumbing that attaches to nothing. Perhaps this part and the associated plumbing have something to do with the experimental fuel injection system. It apparently remained in the car even after it was fitted with the normal Bosch Mechanical Injection system.
Under the car are an extra series of conduits and tubing that pass to the front of the car under the passenger floor boards, likely the remnants of Porsche’s testing equipment fitted to this car when new. The front trunk compartment also has some very strange panel formation with numerous hand divotted areas as shown in the photo gallery.
The gearbox fitted to this car also matches the original assembly records from Porsche. It is a typ. 915/06 unit specifically made for the 1974-1976 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI. It was assembled in June of 1974 at the same time that the car was built. This incredible vehicle now shows 31,882 kilometers, however, there has only been approximately 7,700 kilometers put the car since the complete rebuild of the drivetrain.
Included in the sale of this outstanding Carrera 2.7 will be extensive documentation, a model-specific tool kit and a combination of original and reproduction manuals stored in the original pouch. Also included is an ultra-rare, original blue jack used only late in 1974 when the regular black Bilstein jack was out of production. This is an exceedingly special opportunity to own an original Porsche Factory test and development car.
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- Highest Bid: $140,000
- Auction End: Nov 08, 2019 08:30:00PM UTC
- Number of Bids: 5
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Many thanks everyone! Let me know if we can get something done in PCARMARKET's magic DealTank!
Have a great weekend,
Bill Noon
Many thanks Topforce11 for your bid... please let me know how else I can assist,
Bill Noon
Bid in the amount of $140,000
I haven't wanted to "contaminate" this with my "biased views" but I have brought it to Rennsport and the Monterey Historics and parked it next to my racecar (!), in the paddock. I am not one that's normally taken a (pardon the pun) shine to showing, so not Luftgekühlt, instead preferring to use it as intended. It has been for me, a fast touring car.
Many thanks for your bid soncoast! Let me know if I can assist further in anyway.
Cheers,
Bill Noon
Bid in the amount of $135,000
@ButziBoi_911 It is at that and many thanks ButzBoi_911! I hope the new owner brings it to the next Rennsport, Autobhan and the Luftgekühlt events!
Cheers,
Bill Noon
One of the coolest cars I have seen listed here, I hope whoever wins this brings it to some shows!
Good morning everyone and thank you kindly Gentlemen for your bids. Just under six hours remain before the close of this auction. I am available at anytime if I can assist in anyway with this very special Porsche.
A reminder, that I can provide any manner of local as well as worldwide shipping quotes and we are getting especially good air shipping quotes to Europe. An early Porsche Turbo that we sold recently will be flying shortly to the UK.
Best of luck to everyone and my thanks as well for such a fantastic opportunity to present this rare machine to the fans of PCARMARKET!
Cheers,
Bill Noon
Bid in the amount of $130,000
Bid in the amount of $75,000
@rsierra Good day rsierra,
The engine is the original one installed by Porsche minus the testing equipment and original experimental fuel injection system. It is a normal Carrera RS 2.7 Type 911/83 and the rated output is 210BHP.
How else can I assist?
Bill Noon
I apologize if I missed it, but what is the engine HP? 210?
Very cool car, and extremely fun and involving to drive.
1975 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI
Year 1975
Make Porsche
Model 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI
Type Internal use Factory test and development car
Chassis No 911.560.0011
Konstruction No 105.0001
Engine No 664.1375
Engine Type 911/83 (Experimental works Porsche Department Prepared)
Gearbox No 915/06 734 5398
Gearbox Type 915/06
Exterior Color Light Yellow (Code 117 / B6)
Interior Color Leatherette Midnight Black with Shetland Cloth Seat Inlays (Code 19)
Completed June 1974
Invoiced New N/A
In Warranty Date N/A
Out of Warranty Date N/A
Options:
-M401 7” & 8” Fuch Light Alloy Rims
-M425 Rear Wiper System
-M469 Black Headliner
-M473 Spoilers (experimental test versions)
-Lightweight Glass
-Reduced Sound Deadening & Underbody Protection
-K-Jetronic Injection System (later changed to normal MFI)
-Pirelli Tires
Chassis No. 911.560.0011, Rare Porsche Preproduction, Test and Development Car:
This Particular Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI has had many enthusiasts and historians scratching their heads for the past few years, and it certainly piqued my curiosity meter when I first encountered it. How it came to be and more interestingly how it survived is quite a fascinating story. If you love Porsche oddities, you are in for a real treat, as this one is certainly a unique piece of Porsche history.
First off, I want to give an extreme thanks to noted historian, Ryan Snodgrass who’s definitive tome on these vehicles, CARRERA 2.7 provided impossibly perfect assistance with the research and understanding of this Porsche and why it was so different than the others. If you have any interest in these rare machines, getting a copy of his book is an absolute must!
Several recent formal and informal inquiries to the Porsche Factory to learn more about this Carrera 2.7 MFI provided a very mixed set of responses. A few clear facts were known, specifically that it was assembled in June of 1974 using the first production body for the 1975 model year. It carries the body or more properly the “Konstruktion” number 105.0001. This simply translates to a type 911 Coupé body for model year 1975 and sequentially the first car built. The car’s assigned chassis number is 911.560.0011. Obviously the first three numbers are the model type. The “560” indicates it is a Carrera 2.7 MFI and the final four would make one assume it was car number 11 out of the production run total. Normally a chassis number list for these vehicles shows chassis numbers in the range from 911.560.0001 to 911.560.0518. An actual examination of Porsche production records always indicates that the first chassis number used in each model run starts at 0011 and on at least one occasion .0010. Porsche’s normal practice was not to use the first ten chassis numbers in any production run. Therefore this particular Carrera 2.7 MFI is the first of 508 examples completed.
Since this car resurfaced several years ago, there have been many attempts to learn is early and rather unique history. Highly respected racer and former Porsche historian and archivist, Jürgen Barth was rumored to be a former owner of the car and he wrote in April of 2015 that after checking the Porsche archives that he found the following information:
911 560 0011
Prod Nr 105 0001
Engine ?
Gearbox ?
this has been a Factory car in the Development department
its been sold on the 03.01.1975 to Mr Geppert in Germany
no i did not owne this car
Best regards
Jürgen
During this same time frame, former owner, Clay Huber applied for and received a rather odd and obviously incomplete COA (Certificate of Authenticity) as shown in the photo gallery.
More recent inquires with Porsche have provided continuing additional information and details. My initial inquiry came back with a reply that stated the car was a test and development car as noted by Barth but that it was possibly scrapped or intended to be scrapped in January of 1975. Here is exactly what I was provided:
105 0001
911 560 0011
gemacht 6/74
Testfahrzeug
hellgelb
schwarzer Kunststoff
Reifen Pirelli
verschrottet 1/75 ?
This was further updated with more details:
105 0001
911 560 0011
Motornummer 664 1375
Motortyp Versuchsmotor 911/83
Getriebe 911/06 734 5308
gemacht 6/74
Testfahrzeug für Spezialeinspritzung und Karosserie
hellgelb
schwarzer Kunststoff
Reifen Pirelli
verschrottet 1/75 ?
nicht verschrottet aber erster Besitzer Geppart
This translates to this Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 with body/chassis/engine/gearbox type and numbers was built in June 1974 as a test vehicle in light yellow with black vinyl interior and Pirelli tires and that it was possibly scrapped in January of 1975 but not scrapped and instead sold to a Mr. Geppart. The car was a test vehicle for a special injection system and also for body work, likely the newly developed option code M473 which consisted of the new “Whale Tail” spoiler in conjunction with a front fiberglass air-dam spoiler and rubber lip.
Most recently I received far more complete and detailed information from the Porsche archives. This is what I was provided:
VIN 9115600011
Model Type Carrera MFI Coupé
Model Year 1975
Production Number 1050001
Engine Number 6641375 (1974)
Gearbox Number 7345308 (1974)
Gearbox Type 911/06
Tire Type Pirelli
Color 117 Light Yellow
Interior Trim 19 Leatherette Midnight blue with seat inlay Shetland Cloth
Options:
M401 Fuchs 7” & 8” rims
M473 Spoilers
thinner glasses
reduced sound deadening and underbody protection
K-jetronic
There appears to be three minor errors from the information above with what we actually know about the car, likely due from the fact that these notes were transcribed from the original hand written records Porsche holds for this particular example. The gearbox number is actually “7345398” and not “7345308.” This is likely just an error in reading the original hand written notes. Same for the gearbox type, which is noted above as “911/06” when it is actually “915/06.” Likely again just a typo as Porsche never built a Type 911/06 gearbox. The interior color is actually “Midnight Black” and not "Midnight Blue” and this again is likely just a recording error in transcribing the old records.
Adding all of the information from Jürgen Barth, the COA and two sets of records from Porsche, we now have an excellent understanding of how this car came to be and appeared in the early Summer of 1974.
The car today remains fitted with both the original engine and gearbox as recorded on Porsche’s own internal records. The engine is a very special “Works or Race Department” prepared typ. 911/83 engine with engine number “664.1375.” This engine number decodes as follows:
Engine Number 664.1375
6 Number of cylinders 6-cylinders
6 Type of car Carrera 2.7 MFI
4 Model Year 1974
1375 Production Sequence No The first engine in this sequence was 0021 and the final was 1456.
This engine would have been built sometime in June of 1974, the same time frame that this Porsche was completed and therefore not only matches Porsche’s assembly records but also was built in the same time frame as the car itself. This engine is very clearly a specially prepared unit not built on the production line as the engine type number “911/83” is stamped in large font stamps of the same type as the engine number. This practice took place in the race or special engine department only. The production line engines had their type number stamped at time of assembly with small fonts and later when the engine was assigned to a car, the engine number was stamped using large fonts. The bottom side of the engine also has the distinct “K” stamping which is believed to stand for “Kiene” or “none” for none conforming. The “K” stamping might also be a reference to the fact that this car initially was fitted with an an experimental Bosch K-Jetronic injection system that Porsche tested and evaluated but did not use in the regular production version of the car.
The gearbox fitted to this car also matches the original assembly records for this Porsche. It is a typ. 915/06 unit specifically made for the 1974-1976 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI vehicle line. It was assembled in June of 1974 at the same time the car was constructed. The gearbox number breaks down as follows:
Gearbox Number 915/06 734 5398
915 Gearbox typ. No.
06 Denotes this is a 5-speed typ. 915 transmission for a 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI
7 Application type for a six-cylinder Porsche
3 Type application “3” denotes a 915/06 gearbox for a 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI
4 Model year “4” for 1974
5398 Sequential serial number of the gearbox
In addition to the specially prepared engine, this Porsche still retains a variety of un-identified components, likely also used during Porsche’s testing and development program. The engine compartment has an extremely interesting bracket with a vacuum canister and associated plumbing that attaches to nothing. We know from the Porsche records that the car was fitted with an experimental Bosch K-Jetronic injection system. Perhaps this part and the associated plumbing have something to do with the experimental fuel injection system. It apparently remained in the car even after it was fitted with the normal Bosch Mechanical Injection system.
Under the car are an extra series of conduits and tubing that pass to the front of the car under the passenger floor boards. Their purpose is a complete mystery but they are also likely the remnants of Porsche’s testing equipment fitted to this car when new. Likewise the front trunk compartment has some very strange panel formation with numerous hand divotted areas as will be showing the photo gallery later.
A possible indication that Porsche had no intention of this car ever being released to the public lies in the fact that little effort was taken to remove these components which would have been completely non-conforming and likely not legal on a production road car.
Chassis No. 911.560.0011 After Completion:
We now know what this Porsche looked like in the early Summer of 1974 and what it was doing. It was an internal Porsche Factory test and development car in light yellow with the newly designed front and rear spoilers and an experimental Bosch K-Jetronic injection system. We also know that Porsche retained this vehicle for internal test and development work for seven to eight months before it was deemed surplus to their needs. What happened next is a bit of a mystery.
The very well known German Porsche dealer Freisinger Motorsports owned and sold this Porsche on at least three occasions. Despite repeated inquires, they have been very closed-lip about sharing any additional details. Somehow however either via Freisinger or direct from Porsche this vehicle ended up being sold to a Mr. Geppert or possibly Geppart in Germany.
Despite many attempts, no one has been able to make contact or learn anything more of Mr. Geppert/Geppart. What is known for sure is that in 1991, the car was reacquired by Freisinger and then sold and exported to Japan where it would remain until October of 2013 when it was once again purchased by Freisinger and this time sold to a new owner here in the States. Despite not being willing to share many details, clearly Freisinger knew the car well and worked hard to buy and sell it on at least three and likely four occasions.
While in Japan, this Porsche was color changed from the original light yellow to Grand Prix white. A passenger side review mirror was also fitted to make the car Japanese road registrable. Japanese front fender side marker lights were also added to the car during its stay in Japan.
This Porsche was first registered in Japan in September 1991. It was registered in Japan on Gunma Prefecture, Japan, Gunma plates “300 5979.”
Japanese DMV extract records records that on November 21st, 2005 the mileage was 19,700 kilometers (indicated but likely 119,700 kilometers from new.) The records further note that three years later on May 1st, 2008, the mileage was now recorded at 20,700 kilometers (again indicated but likely 120,700 kilometers from new.)
This Porsche was offered for sale in early 2012 and repurchased again by Freisinger MotorSports and shipped to Germany. It was then re-offered for sale and purchased by Don Ahearn of Porsport Motors and shipped to the States.
To facilitate new registration and import to the States, the car was formally imported by Charles W. Coker Jr., of 56 Linden Plantation, Bluffton, SC, 29910. It arrived via ocean vessel on November 18th, 2013 at the Port of Charleston, SC. Total indicated mileage at time of arrival in the States was still recorded at 20,700 kilometers.
Ahearn then sold the car to Clay Huber, owner of Rosner Automotive Group in Virginia in June of 2014.
The current owner, purchased / traded with Rosner MotorSports / Rosner Volvo of Fredericksburg, Virginia on April 1st, 2015. The sale was done via a trade of his 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7, s/n 911.360.0424. Actual agreed cost at time of purchase for this Carrera 2.7 MFI was $249,000 USD.
This Porsche was then shipped to new owner in San Diego on April 24th, 2015. Total mileage at time of purchase was 22,500 kilometers.
In July 2015, the engine was sent out for rebuild and overhaul by Scott Drnek’s Virtuoso Performance in Hayward, California with the injection system being completely gone through by Gus at Pacific Injection. The seats were also then fully refurbished and recovered as well as additional work at an expense of more than $35,000 USD. The car now shows 31,882 indicated kilometers but likely reflects 131,882 kilometers. There are however only just shy of 7,700 kilometers on the car since the complete rebuild of the drive train.
Chassis No. 911.560.0011 Current Observations and Inspection Notes:
-Ultra-rare, documented, Porsche Factory internal use, test and development car
-Pre-production vehicle with body number one.
-Owned by Porsche Factory for 8 months before being deemed surplus to their needs
-Vehicle is completely rust and accident free.
-Now documented by Porsche internal Assembly Records as being still fitted with the original engine and gearbox
-Special Porsche"Works/Race Department,” experimental fuel injected engine.
-Original tool kit is perfect, correct and specific to the 1974-75, 1976 Carrera 2.7 MFI model
-Combination of original and new production manuals with original pouch
-Ultra-rare, original transitional “Blue” jack used only late in 1974 when the regular black Bilstein jack was out of production
-Low mileage since rebuild of engine, gearbox and complete overhaul of the Bosch mechanical fuel injection system
-Massive file of records, correspondences and receipts covering all services, overhauls and repairs as well as history of the vehicle
This is an incredible opportunity to purchase at market pricing, an original Porsche Factory test and development car in perfect working order with massive supporting records and documents going back to new.
I welcome any manner of inspection and test drives by all interested parties. Please contact me if I can assist further in anyway way with the purchase of this very special Porsche.
Kind regards always,
Bill Noon
Good morning PCAR fans and enthusiasts everywhere.
We have had several very involved inspections on this Porsche over the past week and learned even more about its unique configuration and how special it was to Porsche. As noted this was a Porsche internal use test and development vehicle built several months before the introduction of the update 1975 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 MFI.
I am going to try and post the car's full history here for all to be abel to see. It will be broken up into several segments as there is only so much that can be left in the comment box.
I welcome all inquires and will be happy to email full details on this extremely special Porsche prototype.
Cheers,
Bill Noon
Good morning DriverM,
Many kind thanks for you bid! Please used the "CONTACT SELLLER" button if I can assist in anyway with inspections and test drives.
I can easily accommodate any manner of local as well as worldwide delivery as needed.
Best of luck with the sale,
Bill Noon
Bid in the amount of $50,000
Good day PCAR-Fans everywhere!
I local friend and client contacted me about this car a few weeks ago asking for some help with the car's early history... All I can say is just wow... what a really unique machine and then sum!
I was initially quite baffled by the car but eventually with a little bit of pushing, we were able to get access to Porsches hand-written and typed records.
This Porsche Factory Test and Development car is rare internal use vehicle many of which did not survive the trials and in many cases punishment inflicted during Porsche's rigorous testing work.
Amazingly this one not only survived but is completely matching numbers and 100% rust and accident free. I strongly encourage everyone to look closely through the photo gallery and see if you can pick out some of the car's unique features and details.
I should have an independent compression test to share with everyone tomorrow.
The only deficiency noted during an inspection late last week was that despite showing near zero wear, the front tires are out of date and should be replaced before any extended use. No other mechanical issues were found during a very comprehensive inspection.
I am also planning on getting video of the car going through its paces and will try and get those posted as soon as possible.
Cheers and best wishes always,
Bill Noon